Saying it is makes me Mad clear and simple. Hi, it is not possible the tint the RAD stain any darker than the Butternut color. What can I do about the color? A lot of people like Cabot. When I opened the can I ordered the Cedar had a poop green tinge to it. what kind of clear coat to you use and how often is "once and a while"? For weathered wood with lots of cracks and splinters, I recommend a product like Behr Deckover to fill those cracks and resurface the deck. This product excels at brightening, removing rust stains, and tannin stains caused by fallen leaves. It's a two step acrylic coating that shows the grain of the wood but makes it look like finished furniture. Now that it has been about 15 months since the finish was applied, the rich reddish color is all but gone and we have some black stuff "growing" on our railing and in some places on the deck floor. The advantages for the RAD would be less odor, quicker drying, and the ability to apply to damp wood. I use a paint pad on a pole for the deck,brush the rails. Last summer we used the Restore-A-Deck process on our 3 month old ipe deck, then followed this with one well-worked-in coat of TWP 116 rustic. You are off base accussing me of misleading folks. I just had my 6 mos old ipe deck stained and instead of it looking beautiful, the semi-transparant stain not only covered up the beautiful grain, but turned most of the boards black. Note: Restore-A-Deck Semi-Transparent Wood Stain can be applied to dry or damp wood. http://www.geminicoatings.com/p/12062/Default.aspx, Even your deck photos of TWP 116 on Ipe do not look like the Gemni Coatings 116 color swatch at: http://www.geminicoatings.com/p/12062/Default.aspx. http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/porch/msg08091750956.html, Here's the manufacturer's color swatch. Your finish on the deck looks sufficiently worn that you should be able to put any new finish down including Woodzotic. I put it on a section of the deck and in the shade it looks fine but in the sun it has that poop green tinge. Go to my site, All the ipe projects have 116 on them. Did you clean and brighten the wood after the sanding to open up the grain of the wood? With TWP the finish lasted 6 months so we could have done nothing and had about the same deck that we've had for the last 3 years and saved ourselves the trouble. If others are saying red on ipe, but the color swatch shows brown. Any of the resin base twp products can be mixed together to come up with a different color. P.S.S. Would a wood stripper with sodium hydroxide work? The cap rial will have to be sanded. This can then be cleaned off using either an oxygen bleach such as RAD part 1 or by using a diluted solution (1:4) of bleach to water with a dash of liquid dishwashing soap added. Our roof assembly is a somewhat vented cathedral. If your deck is brand new or if you sanded down your deck like we did, a penetrating oil based stain is going to be your best bet. Red oak is red with some blond highlites, white oak is hmmmmm...white and then theres swamp oak, northen oak, southern oak...and of course my personal....Oak--ies that come in all sorts of colors. In this video, This Old House senior technical editor Mark Powers shows how to restore a deck. Is sanding by hand okay or do we need to find an electric sander to use? Currently, I need just about 3/4 of a gallon of Armstrong-Clark stain to cover 300 sq feet of the densely grained Ipe deck. What is our goal in the sanding process - to remove all the black stuff or just sand down to smooth wood? The only challenge is when you have to get under railings and in other tight areas. I am thinking two tone white railing and spindles with a grey deck, I can use the soild for both right. Restore-A-Deck Wood Stain protects the wood from harmful UV rays and damage caused by water penetration. There are no variances in the boards as they were when I used penofin after the deck was installed. Ipe deck with well done twp 100 series finish life span= over 50 years. New Cottage Gray Color can be added for $3. The stripper with pressure washing should remove this but you will need both additives as well: I applied the sample stains to our recently rained on deck and to be honest you can't see much difference between them, is this expected? You do not have to use the cleaner but it does help to open the grain some. What type of wood are your semi-transparent stain samples on. Removed the really dark stain like a charm. Would you recommend a semi-transparent stain or a solid stain to get a cohesive look overall? Yes, you can spray it. Easy to work with, very cost-effective, and great results! If using the same brand of stain and color as before, complete removal of the previous stain is not necessary. to consider it clean? Any help would be greatly appreciated!! It has been awful. Maybe next year I'll strip the deck and re-coat it, but maybe not. Are those black spot in one area or on the entire rail? Restore-A-Deck Semi-Transparent Wood Stain is safe to use, has a low odor, and is easy to clean up with soap and water. I assume from your description that Spa and Deck is just a finish coating and not a stain, right? With that as a given twp116 is a build coat finish I have found the first coat/or the wet on wet thing will last about the same as you have posted. Buyer’s Guide: Deck Stain Understand the differences in stain ingredients and opacity, so you can choose the right product with which to restore and protect your wood deck. Karen,Not to get off topic but was the RAD system as easy as it sounds? The second time I was choosing between TWP & Woodzotic (same manufacturer as the RAD you used). Hindsight is 20/20, but we would have been better off with a composite I do believe. Do we need to do something other than water wash to accomplish the cleaning step, though? Unfortunately, I have 2 unused 5 gallon containers of TWP116 (I'm in the Chicago suburbs). Its up to the Customer to know if one finish is the right one for them. or should I get right on it and strip it? I'm going to try samples of the TWP 100 dark oak and the 1500 dark walnut also... Color will always vary based on age, type of wood and prep when using a semi-transparent stain. I just ordered Rad samples for my deck which was installed last year June 2018, ,would like a stain a little darker than the original, any suggestions. Please order direct and we will be able to ship to you in 2-5 business days. Your prices are reasonable and with free shipping, that makes it look even better. The deck is on the east side of the house. No way to stir as far as I can tell. Restore-A-Deck Wood Stain is an advanced, water-based, semi-transparent stain formulation designed to penetrate deep into wood pores for maximum protection and longevity. 07 is a little much. Restore-A-Deck seems to have a good reputation. We followed the RAD process carefully and spent hours on the staining process  applying finish, letting it soak in, working it in with a brush, then wiping off excess board by board. However, that ship has sailed, so the question is - what do we do now. first coat is on. This time, do we just need to squirt of the deck really well (gentle use a pressure washer? This is the only way that you are really going to know if it looks the way you want. Other than the aesthetics, is there a downside to that approach (wood deterioration, etc.)? I sanded my deck to get rid of the Sikkens that was coming off. The black spots are scattered all over the entire rail, and there are a few patches of it on the deck boards, too. That's how I ended up using 103 instead of 116. I have used combos like that when puting finish on Garapa and other woods. This product is Step 1 Stripper of the Restore A Deck system. The cleaner will help prep neglected wood and or prep for re-coating with a wood or deck stain. Will do as you instructed and we were leaning towards the Light Walnut to show more of the color thinking the Dark Walnut may mute it some. Restore-A-Deck Wood Stain protects wood from harmful UV rays and damage caused by water penetration. Restore-A-Deck Semi-Transparent Wood Stain is safe to use, has a low odor, and is easy to clean up with soap and water. My deck gets full sun 80% of the day. See this about new wood: My Southwest Va deck is 15 years old treated originally with Cabot oil based stain which was repeated 5 years ago. I tell my customers to put a second coat of stain on ipe in about 6 months then once a year. As I said, the biggest problem we are having with the roof is heat gain. John, could you describe the wet on wet approach? Any pictures of cottage grey on standard pressure treated wood, trying to decide be the solid grey. We left it a full year. Big deck with weathered rails. It has been suggested by a roofer that a radiant barrier be put on top of the plywood deck, then nail on the shingles. Will it weather completely away as the penofin did, and if so, how long will it take? The 36 grit is only found at the tool rental equipment shops and sold for the large drum sanders. Yours looks like mine did! Just get off it Man. Depending on the weather in a week or so put another coat on,this one will take longer to set up so do a test area to find out how long. Restore-A-Deck Semi-Transparent Wood stain can be applied the same day as the prep. First, Restore-A-Deck Cleaner deep cleans your wood, then Restore-A-Deck Brightener follows this powerful cleansing with a brightening formula that is actually designed to lower pH, but significantly brightens the wood for color brilliance following the application of stain as a final process. Thank you! But I'm confused why you are taking it personally my criticism of the TWP product. Get a sample of the 2 or 3 stains you like and try it out on a few scrap boards. Thanks for any inpu. RAD Stain Stripper can be applied with a pump up sprayer as well. Another pic of stubborn stain. I have also read that a radiant barrier would help cool off the house significantly, but I am not sure how to use that technology appropriately. Simply paint it with a thick, acrylic deck restoration coating, which will create a smooth surface that lasts for years. The last application was poor, probably not wiped off. My questions: 1. Don’t want to use solid. I have the deck stained each year, far more expensive than I expected. And even with the product, I'm not taking issue with the penetrating characteristics which are good on a extremely hardwood like ipe. It actually clashes with the cedar stain on my fence. Keep your deck looking its best — and save feet from splinters — by applying a new stain and sealant every year or so, See how this homeowner celebrates his personal style, his flea market finds and the heritage of his 1919 Long Beach home, Along the waterfront in Annapolis, Maryland, a couple gain space but preserve their 1800s home’s period looks, Use winter days to begin planning your 2016 projects. Exactley what are you trying to prove??? Colors will vary based on the wood type and age of the wood. Will your stripper work to remove this product? Ipe itself is not one color it ranges from almost black to a light tan 116 levals out the differances but the result is not Red. The results have been good, but I’d like feedback about the advantages and disadvantages of stripping the oil-based stain and switching to water-based Restore-A-Deck Semi-Transparent Wood Stain. Thanks everyone. I followed with the brightener, then waited 2 days and stained. We accept coupon code submissions for many stores. Your goal will be what I have done on my deck out back of Butler Manor it has around 5 coats,the cap rail has 7 or so and is now up to a simi gloss with no lifting/pealing/cracking I was pushing the stuff just to see what it would do. Originally I was going to put on solid stain. You know Jim if you want to sell your left over stain here fine, but quit misleading folks about the color. 3. So any news on the Woodzotic? When you power sand you reduce the stains ability to soak in correctly. Jim, I just cant see you diging up really old posts, going on and on about it, with out some type of goal. TWP 100 series seems like a great product and I don't regret using it. So I thought I would reach out to the Houzz community about roofing. If you have done this already, then no need to prep anymore as long as the wood is clean. Readers of this post need to know this.http://www.geminicoatings.com/p/12062/default.aspx. You will need to power sand it all off before using the RAD Solid stain. Beautiful. Cedar is not a red color but a cedar brown. I honestly don't think it looks a whole lot different from the 1 yr pics. Restore-A-Deck Wood Stain Stripper is a biodegradable, powdered concentrate that quickly removes worn finishes to restore wood surfaces. love it. I did all this 6 years ago,its just now showing signs of needing a touch up on the deck,the rail system including the copper balusters that got 3 coats of twp are just fine. TWP rustic does not look like redwood. We'll see if the Woodzotic holds up better. Plan to use professional airless sprayer. What could this black stuff be? Plan was to brighten and then stain...when you say clean is that different than the stripping that I already completed? J. BTW, we live in coastal Southern California. Mark I agree just sanding will not take away those pesky mold spores. Deck stain reviews and ratings for all major exterior wood stain and sealer brands. Deck is 4 or so years old. This is enough to test a small area. The weather exchange over here in Cow Town provides a clear positive test in any area short of the polor ice cap or the highway from Phonix to Fresno. Have any pictures of your ipe with spa and deck applied? That is normal for all brands. However, I saw a thread of posts from a year ago where the RAD system and woodzotic were unavailable for while with no communication from Ken? If the black spots disappear in a few minutes then you have mildew. I’d like to use a solid stain on the deck but wondered if I can apply your product on top of the remaining stain? It's like a wood floor now. 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